Imagine a world where voting does not exist. In this world, we would have no need for rules or principles. But in our world, voting is a reality. So we have a simple rule: we only vote against. We use a “Squad Vote” for each proposal. If more people vote against than vote for or abstain, we vote against on-chain. Otherwise, we abstain. This is our rule.

According to the “squad vote” result for proposal 241, which is 19 for, 13 against and 12 abstain, we choose to vote abstain.

We support Proposal 244.

• The Lilnouns community has adopted it, with over 160 ideas collected and turned into proposals through a proven process.

• PropLot's team is truly community-driven, able to identify and fulfill needs on the fringes of the community. They are a team with a Crypto-Native soul, and we believe in their future!

• This is an interesting governance experiment. PropLot will become Nounish's wish pool, and if it becomes a reality, it would be too wonderful! Both Nouners could enjoy a more complete governance cycle and a more active ecosystem.

However, there are many concerns. The reason for these concerns is that

• PropLot's effectiveness in NounsDAO is in doubt. PropLot performs well in the Lilnouns community due to its member size and its integration into the lilnouns website.
  But PropLot and NounsDAO are very different. NounsDAO is a network with only 341 holders (NounsDAO is not a community), while Lilnouns has a community of 2338 active members who generate many interesting stories on Discord.
  In addition, if PropLot is not integrated into the NounsDAO website or the processes of Prop House or House Of Nouns, then there will be little interaction with holders and users. Although Nouns.Center has implemented this feature, its entry point is too deep, and no one uses it. These are the reasons why we do not believe PropLot will be successfully adopted in NounsDAO.

• There are also many alternative products available. PropLot's idea is simple and can easily be implemented by HouseOfNouns (in their proposal) or other products such as nouns.build and nounsagora.

Overall, we are willing to believe in them and take this adventure together!

I like the idea in theory but given that it's already been used extensively in Lil Nouns, I'd need some sort of evidence that the model worked there before trying it out in Nouns. We've seen in the past that it's hard to get sufficient Nouner participation on pre-onchain initiatives, so I'd want to know how this is different before voting yes.

Interested to see whether this or prop 242 (or neither) gets traction. I think it's worth funding both at the moment, then evaluate in a few months time.

I am not sure about all the exact details here, but directionally this seems substantive and worth experimenting with. I often get DMs asking for feedback on proposals touching on ideas I've tweeted about, and I think the idea of formalizing that process is interesting. I also am excited about possibly having a repository of all the things Nouners want to see built, though I do wonder if for something to really work it has to be the proposers own in some way beyond just writing the proposal for something others want to see done. In any case, excited to see experimentation here!

FOR - 40 VOTES

Pizza | "An amazing tool that would greatly help the rest of the Nounish ecosystem."

Josep | "Prop Lot has shown to be a good tool during the time it has been active, I would like to continue to see how it evolves and contributes to Nouns growth."

Sasquatch | "brian the goat"

NO - 10 VOTES
ABSTAIN - 5 VOTES

We are voting YES on this because Prop Lot has achieved success within Lil Nouns and unlocks new behaviors around coordination for Nouns (specifically around signaling interest in ideas). The ask is extremely reasonable for an MVP and we're eager to see how the community uses it. It could be a good way for the DAO to find future explorers as well!

Following in senecas footsteps here. I want this/the team to succeed but unable to build conviction in this particular solution.

the ux flow requires substantial attention (quorum, twice (!)) from nouners w/o any incentive to do so. lowering said quorum defeats the purpose.

from experience, it's close to impossible to get a meaningful % of nouners to pay attention (understandably so) without there being 6+ figures on the line.

i'm not sure this will get any real traction without rethinking the mechanism entirely. good luck!

Whatever has been learned about how this is useful to Lil Nouns should be expanded on here.

After talking to the proposer I was made awere that this has been a successful use case on Lil Nouns and also recieved some more information on the team.
While I still stand by my original comments on my newsletter, with the new information I will be switching my for to a yes as I believe this could potentially prove useful for the DAO.
https://cbites.substack.com/p/active-governance-noun-582-3

I've used Prop Lot at Lil Nouns where I thought it was a useful tool to provide heat checks on ideas that the membership wanted to pursue. I believe in this team, who can clearly execute and in adding additional tools to the DAO toolkit.

as much as possible would advocate to establish a shared backend schema with projects like house of nouns and agora that are thinking of their own versions of this such that the idea liquidity can be shared and collectively built.

regardless, I support this effort and feel pretty bullish that one or a combination of these approaches proving to be successful can help the draft idea to onchain prop pipeline improve significantly, which would help a lot.

I support funding open infrastructure to solve DAO problems. This piece of software has also been successfully piloted via Lil Nouns.

We built something similar on nouns.center/ideas, and without network effects, it becomes a ghost yard. I am bearish that novel ideas will come from public forums. I'd be glad to be proven wrong here, but I am almost positive YCombinator doesn't do anything internal like this. Quality proposals will come from ultra-skilled, smaller teams (Atrium, Goldy, Danit, Stoopid Buddy, albeit not so small, Prop House, etc.), that have very specific skill sets. I'd be much more inclined to further fund work on this proposal if it has moved the needle forward within the Lil Nouns community, where this tool seems to already be in place.

dont we have prophouse already?